https://mandikaye.com/blog/h4mtkv38pv There is an argument among some Orthodox as to whether it is appropriate to speak of there being fundamentalist Orthodox. I would argue that there are. From a lecture by The Rev. Joshua Raja John (UK Anglican), I abstracted the slide above. It has a good set of statements that are well worth noting and can be applied to the Orthodox. He makes the following three important points (read the slide for his wording).
1. It is not wrong to hold on to the fundamentals of our faith. The wrongness comes in if our holding on to our beliefs leads us to, “seeing the other as evil and thus trying to eliminate the other…” There is absolutely nothing wrong with believing that other faiths are wrong. Notice that the key phrase is in seeing the other as evil. When we see the other as evil, we will inevitably less and less consider them as people that we want to evangelize into a solid faith in Christ and membership in the Church. There is absolutely nothing wrong with considering that other people have committed evil acts. Frankly, I am a sinner, which means that by definition I most certainly have committed evil acts during my life, and have had to repent of them.
https://oevenezolano.org/2024/08/1v50eec But, fundamentalists go farther than that in attributing evil, not simply to actions, but to the people involved themselves. Additionally, many fundamentalists can also make the mistake of thinking that because there is some evil in a group that no Orthodox could possibly be a true Orthodox and be a part of that group. Recently, one of the priests attending the OCA national convention was detailed by His Eminence to escort the Archbishop of one of the breakaway Anglican groups, who was visiting. He wrote on his blog about what a wonderful experience that was. Promptly a person I would classify as a fundamentalist made several statements:
https://www.completerehabsolutions.com/blog/ki2yk1ytdda “Ecumenism is heresy. We only call them Christian out of charity.” There were replies to him. The rest of his replies have now been removed by the priest, but the person went on to bluntly ask people whether they agreed with ecumenism, to disparage the efforts of the Patriarch of Constantinople, to claim that the escort was wasted because the Archbishop would never become Orthodox (as though that is the only reason to meet with someone), etc. You can see that he was attributing evil to the simple act of hospitality, and—in a sense—evil to the Archbishop, since he would never change and turn toward the Church. From that stance, he had gone on to criticize the fact that the priest had a wonderful experience escorting the guest! Can you see the turn from upholding the faith to attributing evil motives to others?
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2. Every religion has marks of fundamentalism upon it. If you think about it, this makes sense. Every time you enforce the rules of your faith, you inevitably are being a bit fundamentalist in the best sense of the word. You are enforcing the fundamentals of the faith. Any religion that does not enforce its fundamentals, inevitably loses all definition and ceases to exist as a definable entity. Many decades ago, a Protestant theologian commented that the Church always struggles between being closed and open. There is some truth to that. There are times when Orthodoxy must be closed. The Body and Blood is not to be shared outside the Church. The sacraments are for the faithful. But, there are also times when we need to reach out to others in God’s love and our love. The Desert Fathers teach us much about loving others.
Order Alprazolam From Mexico 3. Catch the third point he makes. There is nothing wrong with a reform movement, with a revival group within the Church, with some provisos of course. Nevertheless, wanting to reform the Church, in and of itself, is not a mark of fundamentalism. Rather, as with the first point, a reformist group crosses the line when they see as outside the Church those who do not agree with them. Worse is when they will acknowledge that those who disagree with them may be in the Church, but they are simply ignorant, or not truly spiritual, etc. I have seen that argument made by convert priests against ethnic priests, as though the ethnic priests have simply inherited some sort of pallid, nominal, version of the faith which the converts are bringing back to its full flower. It is when those priests and lay people feel fully capable of judging those who have inherited the faith and passed it on to them that they most show their fundamentalism, and their sin.
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Order Xanax Bars Online Modern Liberals would fit your definition of fundamentalists, because they demonize those that they disagree with. On the other hand, I don’t think B. B, Warfield or J. Gresham Machen could fairly be accused of hating their opponents, and they are the fathers of actual Protestant fundamentalism.
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https://www.completerehabsolutions.com/blog/u8q3vh6v45 Actually, I fully agree, except that I would qualify “modern liberals” with the adjective “various” or even “many,” as in “various modern liberals.” And, yes, neither Warfield nor Machen nor Bishop Litton would fit the modern connotation of fundamentalist, as they appear to have had very little condemnation of others in their souls. I deliberately used the word connotation because the denotation of fundamentalism was simply one who held to the fundamentals of the faith. However, the current connotation has changed the word into something else altogether. This is why, even when I was first aware of such things in the early 1970’s, Evangelicals started using the word “Evangelical” rather than “Fundamentalist.” Back when the term “Evangelical” first started to be used, they wanted to differentiate themselves by arguing that they also held to the fundamentals of the faith, but in a kinder, gentler, fashion.