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NEWARK, Texas — The teachings of televangelist Kenneth Copeland and his family focusing on the virtues of trusting God to keep healthy are under scrutiny after a cluster of measles cases linked to his family’s North Texas megachurch revealed many congregants hadn’t been vaccinated against the highly contagious disease.
https://sugandhmalhotra.com/2024/08/07/lm1dsyf Kenneth Copeland Ministries earlier this month issued following statement on their website:
https://nedediciones.com/uncategorized/xuk8ear Kenneth Copeland Ministries’ position regarding dealing with any medical condition involving yourself or someone in your family is to first seek the wisdom of God, His Word, and appropriate medical attention from a professional that you know and trust. Apply wisdom and discernment in carrying out their recommendations for treatment.
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https://polyploid.net/blog/?p=sfh1r6c In the past several days there has been incorrect or misleading information being reported about Kenneth Copeland Ministries/Eagle Mountain International Church’s (KCM/EMIC) position on vaccines and receiving medical attention. To be clear, KCM/EMIC believes in, and advocates the use of, medical professionals. If an individual is faced with a situation that requires medical attention, that person should seek out the appropriate medical professional and follow their instructions using wisdom. As an example of KCM/EMIC’s commitment to the importance of the medical profession in the healing process, KCM/EMIC provides its employees with an onsite medical clinic staffed by an MD and a CMA, a first-rate health insurance program, and has sponsored onsite vaccination clinics. KCM/EMIC continues to stand by its original posted position issued August 21, 2013.
If you go to the comment section after the second statement, the media is accused of lying and of misrepresenting the truth about KCM. More than one person claims that you can no longer rely on the media communicating truth, but only opinion.
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https://mandikaye.com/blog/7w1lalg8 I should mention that, to this day, many medicines can indeed poison, if taken in wrong doses. You only need to read the side-effects panel of all medicines to realize that medicines can truly cause problems. But, many times this is a case of the pains of the cure being better than the outcome of the disease. A painful surgery many times keeps you alive. The alternative is often much less positive. Epidemics can, and do, kill.
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“I got to looking into that and some of it is criminal. … You’re not putting — what is it Hepatitis B — in an infant! That’s crazy. That is a shot for a sexually transmitted disease. What? In a baby?” he said. “You don’t take the word of the guy that’s trying to give the shot about what’s good and what isn’t. You better go read the can or read the thing — find out what’s going on there and get the information on there because I’m telling you, it’s very dangerous the things that are happening around us all the time.”
https://www.completerehabsolutions.com/blog/obzymwe19 His daughter, Terri Pearsons, who is a senior pastor at Eagle Mountain, along with her husband, said after the outbreak that people were encouraged to be vaccinated, but then added an important line:
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She ended up having to explain that line, and cited a now fully and totally discarded and repudiated statement on the connection between vaccines and autism. As I have commented in other posts, this study that was never confirmed by any other study, and was eventually decisively repudiated by all medical societies, continues to make the rounds in many circles, particularly in those Christian circles that are prone to have problems with vaccines.
Here is the bottom line. If you are Orthodox, have your children vaccinated. DO NOT try to tell your priest about your responsibility as a parent to evaluate vaccines and decide whether to give them. Have them vaccinated, and do not try to claim that it is Orthodoxy that leads you to not vaccinate them. Do not misuse your responsibility as a parent to refuse your children the protection of vaccination. The OCA website has the following comment in answer to a question about vaccinations:
Buy Alprazolam China There are no statements by the Orthodox Church against childhood immunizations / vaccinations. I have never heard of an Orthodox Christian objecting to such immunizations on religious grounds for any reason.
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https://transculturalexchange.org/gnn8lkey Through an already established collaboration with Doctors of the World in Greece, the Jaharis gift will help expand vaccination programs for children and the elderly and establish more polyclinics to provide primary and urgent care to vulnerable populations such as children, expectant mothers (pre/postnatal care), and the elderly.
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https://oevenezolano.org/2024/08/xq4airhb So, if you are Orthodox, vaccinate your child. Please do not listen to those pseudo-Christian arguments and ministries that would keep you from your responsibility as a parent, which is to vaccinate your child against childhood diseases. More than that, you need to stop setting up medical science over against God. Our hierarchs do not. If you do so, you do not do so for Orthodox reasons.
If you need some answers for how to resolve your inner conflict, make two appointments. The first appointment needs to be with your priest to speak about your conflict. The second, and later, appointment needs to be with your pediatrician for after your priest points you to him/her for vaccinations.
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Anthony says
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https://merangue.com/kciajqn41k With all due respect Fr. It sounds like you are saying that it is a doctrine of the Orthodox Church that a Christian must have immunizations which is completely ridiculous. I was never given a shot and my 3 children have never been given shots. We are just fine and healthy. It is a little out of line to proclaim “if you are orthodox have your children vaccinated ” as if it is your decision who should be vaccinated. If a parent decides to vaccinate, fine. And if they don’t fine. It is up to them. To many people in the western world treat doctors as gods, think for your selves and do some research people.
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https://www.psicologialaboral.net/2024/08/07/2y0e8ve02 But, you make a couple of serious errors. One, please look again at the statement from the OCA. It is clear that the position you espouse is so out of the mainstream of Orthodoxy that the clergy who answered the question for the OCA had never even heard of anyone espousing your position within Orthodoxy. Two, you are committing the classical Protestant error that says that because you are a family that the Church has no right, or very little right, to speak into your situation. You are assuming that the care and raising of your children is your concern alone and that the Church cannot speak to you and expect to have you listen to the Church.
What is clear from the various statements by the Orthodox jurisdictions is that vaccination is the expected norm. No, it has never been made a matter of “doctrinal” statement. The Roman Catholic Church is the one that has made some clearer statements about vaccination. It says:
https://www.completerehabsolutions.com/blog/ged8bsdqao “… the risk to public health, if one chooses not to vaccinate, outweighs the legitimate concern about the origins of the vaccine. This is especially important for parents, who have a moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them.”
While the Orthodox have not made as clear a statement, I think I can safely say that our position would indeed be similar. You have a “moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them.” I would suggest that you listen to the Church and have your children vaccinated.
https://udaan.org/iyyum6h2kq8.php So, NO, it is NOT the least out of line for me to “proclaim” that if you are Orthodox, you should have your children vaccinated.
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Fr. Ernesto Obregon says
https://transculturalexchange.org/53gc6n14wz8 I can understand that type of solution since it was based on which vaccinations could safely wait. As you pointed out, most (if not all) your children now have even those vaccinations you did not have them given. I cannot understand those solutions which expose children to easily prevented childhood diseases and base those solutions on a supposed more faithful following of God. And, as you pointed out, in other circumstances, even the vaccinations you avoided should be given.
The Orthodox give no support whatsoever to those who claim they are “faithfully” following God as a reason to avoid vaccinating their children altogether. And, they give short shrift to those who claim that they have a right as parents to refuse their children all vaccinations as a result of their “godly” commitment. Those of us in the USA need to stop using God as a support for some hyper-individualistic views of family.
https://mandikaye.com/blog/d1c60k1gk What I wonder sometimes is what would happen if one parent wants to vaccinate out of godly commitment and the other parent wants to not vaccinate out of a godly commitment? I suspect that a divorce would ensue and that both parents would use God to justify the divorce. I further suspect that God would be used in the custody battle as one parent would use Him to support their having custody to prevent the children from being vaccinated, and one would use Him to support having custody to have their children vaccinated.