https://sugandhmalhotra.com/2024/08/07/iq0gyqruzau Yesterday Father Orthoduck talked about the Marshall Plan and suggested that it may have some things to say to us about Iraq and Afghanistan. Father Orthoduck also suggested that some knowledge of history might be helpful in order to be able to understand why citizens of the Middle East might be less than excited about our presence in Iraq, even though they agree with our invasion of Afghanistan. Let’s start first with a look at the recent history of the Middle East.
https://homeupgradespecialist.com/t1q4viy6cn7 Have you ever heard about the British Mandate of Palestine? It was, “a legal instrument for the administration of Palestine formally approved by the League of Nations in June 1922, based on a draft by the principal Allied and associated powers after the First World War. The mandate formalized British rule in Palestine from 1917-1948. The boundaries of two new states were laid down within the territory of the Mandate, Palestine and Transjordan.” Now, this may surprise you, but the United States at that time was against the mandate, in part because it seemed to simply be a legal way to disguise the spoils of war (World War I) among the European powers. More than that, the High Commissioner for the mandate refused to recognize the rights of non-Orthodox Jews and of Protestant Christians. Worse, the High Commissioner continued the millet system of the Ottoman Empire. Thus the USA Senate refused to ratify the Covenant of the League of Nations.
https://www.clawscustomboxes.com/gm40slh But, more than that, France held Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, and French Morocco as colonies. Spain held Spanish Morocco. Italy held Ethiopia. Britain further held Egypt. In other words, the Middle East was divided among the (white) European powers. Algeria only became fully independent in 1962. Father Orthoduck was already 10 1/2 years old then. Morocco became independent in 1956, and so on. As Americans, we fail to realize that the Middle East is full of people who can remember being occupied by the European powers. For these people, it is NOT old history, it is part of their personal memories.
Can you understand why they might have a knee-jerk reaction to the invasion of a Middle Eastern country by a “white” country? By and large the Middle East understood our invasion of Afghanistan because it was a clear case of retaliation against your enemy. But, there was no clear aggression by Saddam against the United States. We might not have liked him, and he certainly was violating human rights. But, you need to place yourself in their shoes. Many of the Middle Eastern states are run by autocratic and authoritarian regimes. While Saddam was extreme by Middle Eastern standards, he was not completely outside the way their various governments run themselves. But worse, almost all Middle Easterners of the age of babyboomers (or older) have personal memories of being controlled by an European power.
https://www.psicologialaboral.net/2024/08/07/4dkxfitxu But, we might have yet pulled it off had we found weapons of mass destruction or proof that Saddam was planning to directly engage in terrorist acts in the USA. But, he was not. There were no weapons of mass destruction found and to this day there is no evidence that he was involved in any direct attacks on the USA. So, to the typical Middle East citizen, it looks merely like another instance of the historical interference of the European/First World powers into the Middle East. Can you now understand why the typical Middle East citizen might then look at anyone who violently opposes the USA as a freedom fighter rather than a terrorist? In fact, as Father Orthoduck pointed out Al Qaeda had an incredible opportunity to become heroes. Thank God that they made the same type of mistakes as C.S. Lewis points out in his book That Hideous Strength. Evil always overstretches itself.
Had it not been for the stupidity of Al Qaeda, we might be facing a more difficult situation than the one we are facing. That is not to say that we have taken the smartest steps that we could have, particularly given the history of the post-WWII period. But, the prior history of the region gives a quite plausible reason why Middle Eastern Muslims were slow to speak out against the jihadists. It was not always because they were evil Muslims who had it in for Christians. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you have nice thoughts about people who resembled the people whom you remembered as being your occupiers when you were a child, or that your parents or grandparents had told you about?
And, so, on the one hand, it took longer than it should have for a fatwa to be proclaimed against the jihadists. But, that can be explained in part, but only in part, by the prior history. Nevertheless, we have yet to look at ourselves and some possible approaches to the Middle East.
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https://eloquentgushing.com/vso2k43 thanks, Ernesto. very informative, food for thought
https://inteligencialimite.org/2024/08/07/o78t9r1q3 Ted says
ahhh, Bogey and Bergman.
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https://oevenezolano.org/2024/08/68ooq5ll3t Greatest film ever made. But back to the topic:
https://eloquentgushing.com/57z3o7ryw6i “Can you understand why they might have a knee-jerk reaction to the invasion of a Middle Eastern country by a “white” country?”
https://mandikaye.com/blog/ryyo3pqf8v —Yup.
“…almost all Middle Easterners of the age of babyboomers (or older) have personal memories of being controlled by an European power.”
https://udaan.org/rdc95qq3hvb.php —And all Iraqis over the age of 23 have personal memories of US planes bombing their country (airports, bridges, power plants, factories and the occasional collaterally-damaged civilian).
Order Alprazolam Online Uk —And all Iraqis over the age of kindergarten are aware of the second attack.
https://merangue.com/fkk9ezaa You’re right about That Hideous Strengh (one of Lewis’ most important books). Evil always destroys itself (you said “overstretches”–nice euphemism). But we have to ask if only one side is guilty.
Lord, deliver us from evil.
https://www.completerehabsolutions.com/blog/zqa039b Alix says
https://homeupgradespecialist.com/8e265h7y78 Somehow, I really can’t think that someone in the middle east can’t tell the difference between a European and folks from the USA. That is like saying that because my uncle was killed by the Japanese that I should judge every Asian by that. I don’t even judge the current Japanese by that! It boggles the mind.
Alprazolam Cheap Muslims don’t seem to like it when someone judges all Muslims by the standard that is used to judge those who brought us 9-11. I see a definate difference between folks who blow up innocent people and folks who put on a uniform and fight for their country. Terrorists are not uniformed army or militia for any country that I am aware of.
Iraq was not the brightest idea in the world, but IF we really believed in the weapons of mass destruction thing…..Probably better if we had not stuck our nose in….but we DO seem to think we should stick our nose in for whatever reason–however if we are going to take on tyranical dictators and their regimes there are others I think are more egregious examples of slaughtering your own people. It should be clear that we are not taking over or colonizing. If we were we wouldn’t be turning over administration to Iraqis–we would be setting up something like what Britain had to rule its colonies.
https://nedediciones.com/uncategorized/4yz2r3l I am beginning to think that no one in the middle of this thing is logical or rational. It seems all emotion based to me–even my own opinions. I read what I write and even I am emotional–but then I too had family and friends injured and killed on 9-11. That doesn’t mean I think we should declare war on Islam or every Muslim country and person in the world.
https://foster2forever.com/2024/08/47w31sg.html I have a hard time with the concept of turning the other cheek in these cases–and loving your enemy. I-by force of will-pray for them…..haven’t learned to love them yet–could see doing good to them but the motive would be way off base. I look at myself and see how far I am from praying “Father forgive them…..” So as is usual in almost any case, if I point one finger at THEM, there are three pointing back at ME and I have to go again and pray “Lord, have mercy.”
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https://inteligencialimite.org/2024/08/07/ft3bhyfmuv0 Fr. Orthoduck says
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Well, actually, in the WWII and the Viet Nam generations there were many who did judge all Asians by the Japanese and the North Vietnamese.
https://transculturalexchange.org/17h5rocjkis While Middle Easterners can tell the difference between Europeans and North Americans, in the geographical sense, they would also hold to the idea that the First World countries are against them.